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Jan 11, 2021 at 9:34 comment added Asaf Karagila Mod It's 2021, so yes, we should ban discussions in the coffee room.
Jan 9, 2021 at 0:13 comment added Gjergji Zaimi I also interpreted the expression the way Federico explains. Given that you can't unlearn the things you read on MO it's not a big deal that you can't take back some of the posts you contributed. The meaning of "free to leave" is that you have no commitment to continuing this give-and-take relationship. This is not true for the board/moderators who are a bit more committed one way or another.
Jan 8, 2021 at 23:44 comment added Federico Poloni @Joël You have unrealistic expectations here. Defining "leave = delete all your previous posts" sounds like twisting the meaning of that term. "Leave = stop making new posts" seems more natural, if you compare it to real-life uses of that word. In addition, note that you can delete your account and disassociate all posts from it, if you really wish to burn bridges.
Jan 8, 2021 at 19:35 comment added Lucia Hi Federico: While I'm sure you're technically correct in your last para, I think that it is a bit counter to the ethos of MO. For example, the moderator page explicitly states that "moderation starts with the community itself." I agree with Joël that telling people that they can leave if they don't like it is not great. Having said that, I have really no concerns that the moderators would do anything without consultation with the community at large, and we don't really have to worry about your last statement.
Jan 8, 2021 at 19:21 comment added Joël I mean "remove your contributions" of course. Saying that you are "free to live" is a sick joke, honestly. I know that removing one's contribution is illegal, meaning that preventing a user to leave is ultimately based on the force of a gang of armed men, as Engels calls the State.You can be proud of yourself.
Jan 8, 2021 at 19:10 comment added Federico Poloni @Joël What do you mean by "taking away", since they are a non-rival good? If you wish to permanently remove your contributions, you can't, legally: you licensed them to the world with a CC license, and now SE, you, I and everyone else can use them. This was always in the fine print. If you mean downloading and exporting your data to use them elsewhere and create your own private MO, you can, as long as you respect the same license.
Jan 8, 2021 at 17:50 comment added Joël Well, users have the freedom to leave but no to take away their possessions with them (questions, answers, comments), are they? Since these "possessions" are the entire presence of the user on MO, the "freedom to leave" is, indeed an empty phrase.
Jan 8, 2021 at 10:49 comment added Harry Gindi I want to do it in secret with the board present, because that seems like a great idea now. That way we can swear (a frank and productive conversation?), because we're talking in private. Do you not see how it's different when it's a group of well-connected insiders doing it (and how silly my secret cabal meeting in an underground bunker sounds)?
Jan 8, 2021 at 10:45 comment added Federico Poloni @HarryGindi You can discuss with your friends, come up with a proposal, and suggest it on a Meta post. That has always been true.
Jan 8, 2021 at 9:39 comment added Harry Gindi Sure. Then I suggest we have a counter-#1-session as well. I'll invite the board and I hope they'll come and listen to my concerns as well. I'll make sure to bring together a chorus of people who share my beliefs and other friends of mine, and we can meet in a great big echo chamber (some kind of disused nuclear missile silo, maybe =] ).
Jan 8, 2021 at 9:07 history answered Federico Poloni CC BY-SA 4.0