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Todd Trimble
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Garbled MathJax in a link to a question with MathJax in the title
I'm on Firefox 68.0.2, using MacOS Mojave 10.14.2.
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Garbled MathJax in a link to a question with MathJax in the title
@MartinSleziak Yes, I understood that, but still didn't see it.
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Garbled MathJax in a link to a question with MathJax in the title
For what it's worth, I'm not able to see this myself when I visit your page.
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Catering to professional appearance a bit much?
Noted, Felipe. Since you address me, it seems you want me to respond. How many times do I need to say that I inadvertently overlooked the mechanism? But -- on discussion about this with the other moderators, it was agreed that the question needed to be removed anyway. See one of the earlier comments by Scott Morrison.
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Catering to professional appearance a bit much?
Thanks for that edit. In general, here at meta it would be much,much better to keep one's ideas (projections?) about the motives of others to one's self -- and stick to assertions that can be backed up with evidence. This meta post seems to some degree based on assumptions about motives, especially your point 3. And just as no one is obliged to explain a reason to vote to close, I don't think it's wise to set up a system where people are obliged to explain a vote to delete.
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Catering to professional appearance a bit much?
Hey Stefan, I think this point has already been mentioned before. I am saying if it were a normal user casting the 10th vote, then that would be democracy in action. I have already conceded that it was unfortunate that I had forgotten about the effects of my vote.
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Catering to professional appearance a bit much?
Thank you for your edit, Darij. I would also say that "prompt deletion" is inaccurate. The joke question was actually controversial back in 2009, and the more recent discussion played out over some time; I held back from saying anything there for quite some time, and the votes to delete (prompted no doubt by the discussion) trickled in slowly. Anyway, saying "prompt deletion" creates an appearance that various parties acted rashly and dictatorially, and what with accusations of SJW being flung around, adding fuel to the fire, this doesn't seem quite fair.
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Catering to professional appearance a bit much?
Yes, I know, and I already admitted in the other thread that unfortunately I forgot this fact. Just like I usually do when I cast a vote to close a question at main, I wait until four others have voted first and then vote last (except in cases where closure seems utterly inevitable), so that my own vote is weighted like every else's. When I saw nine votes to delete, I followed that same modus operandi, but as I say I forgot about the prevention of undeletion. If we put that aside however, I would view the 10 votes as a normal democratic outcome.
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Catering to professional appearance a bit much?
Let me ask a question. If the 10th and final vote to delete the joke thread were made by a normal user, would you have created this post?
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Catering to professional appearance a bit much?
"are motivated ... by [a]... desire to appear maximally professional, polite and smooth to the outside world" -- you don't know that's the motivation of the 10 individuals who voted to delete.
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Should these sexually suggestive jokes be kept or deleted?
Okay, I'm listening. Mine was the 10th vote to delete, and to be honest I forgot the aspect that Stefan pointed out -- mea culpa. I take back the proposal to delete this meta post.
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Should these sexually suggestive jokes be kept or deleted?
I'll mention that the post has now been deleted. Perhaps this is not the end of the story, but I think now we can reset the counter and that this current meta post can also be deleted. If anyone wants to weigh in within the next 24 hours for some concluding remarks, go ahead.
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Should these sexually suggestive jokes be kept or deleted?
@StevenLandsburg Okay. The only thing I'd add is that Tanner did apologize as well, and there's not much more he (I'm pretty sure "he") can do at this point. But anyway I think we may be inching along to some semblance of consensus, at points. (By the way, I'm not going to be applying any pre-set algorithm; just use my judgment in determining any action to be taken.)
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Should these sexually suggestive jokes be kept or deleted?
@AsafKaragila Okay, Asaf. I'm really not defending TBBT, honest.
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Should these sexually suggestive jokes be kept or deleted?
@StevenLandsburg I've read the post several times, and saw the retraction and edit too. Do you find it still inflammatory?
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