Timeline for Freedom of speech in scientific discussions - An invitation to more tolerance in Scientific debates
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Jul 6, 2015 at 13:14 | comment | added | user51223 | @JeremyRickard and asking the right question, I think, is a kind of skill. So, people learn how and what to ask while they are welcomed and allowed to ask in such places. Actually, such a hypothetical student could be living under one of the regimes that you mentioned! So, let's try to help them to enjoy freedom, at least here! | |
Jul 6, 2015 at 13:13 | comment | added | user51223 |
@JeremyRickard Thank you Jeremy to think of me as a friend when you have been commenting. I didn't mean this to be a trivialisation for the issue of Free Speech' and it was meant to be about the particular place that it was posted to. Just for a moment, imagine that someone who does not have access to many experts in his/her field, say a research student doing his/her PhD in area X of Earth who is not native/fluent in English. It seems to me that with recent level of putting high' standards, such people don't stand much of a chance whereas in old mailing list, I think, they had a chance.
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Jul 6, 2015 at 12:58 | comment | added | Jeremy Rickard | @user51223 I apologize. "You're just being silly" is what I would have said to you if I knew you and were speaking to you in person. It wasn't an appropriate way to address somebody I don't know on the internet. But I think your use of this "example" (example of what, I'm not sure) and your portrayal of this issue as one of "free speech" (which it isn't) was unwise if you wanted to start a debate. Far too many people in this world still live under repressive regimes that curtail their rights to express their opinions by threat of violence, and I find the trivialization of this quite offensive. | |
Jul 5, 2015 at 17:32 | comment | added | user51223 | @JeremyRickard. Thank you for calling my example a silly act. I think I explained above that the example is intentionally meant to be extreme in order to highlight the effect. Blocking someone is not the same as executing him/her, yet it seems to me that it has a deep effect, one the only visible and understandable acts come from words! Still, what is happening such a blocking or putting someones question, see a QUESTION, is too harsh. Do you disagree? | |
Jul 5, 2015 at 12:34 | comment | added | Jeremy Rickard | @user51223 The fact that the threat of murder would dissuade somebody from asking a question may help to show the effect of deleting somebody's question? Really? You're just being silly, and that paragraph will have alienated many people, myself included, who might have had some sympathy with some of your other points. | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 21:30 | answer | added | The Masked Avenger | timeline score: 11 | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 14:48 | comment | added | user51223 | @AsafKaragila Sometimes, to show the effect, an extreme example may help. | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 14:31 | review | Close votes | |||
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Jul 4, 2015 at 14:29 | comment | added | Gerald Edgar | If someone is "blocked" because of phrasing, that is not good. But (on the other hand) if a question is "put on hold" because of phrasing, that is what "on hold" is for, and there is then an opportunity to improve the phrasing, and be removed from "hold". | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 13:58 | comment | added | Joonas Ilmavirta | @AsafKaragila, that was a rather dramatic way of saying that drama is bad. Nevertheless, I agree. | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 13:53 | comment | added | Asaf Karagila Mod | The comparison between asking here and being kicked out, and asking Gauss and being executed does not add to the question. In general, when you want people to listen you should avoid excessive drama and unnecessary comparison to executions and murder. If there's one thing that I learned in my very few years as a grad students, and the slightly longer experience being alive, is that not many professional anythings have a penchant for excessive drama, and using drama as a metaphor to drive your point home, will usually drive it over a cliff... to its death. | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 13:26 | comment | added | Yemon Choi | I disagree with the inference you make: " So, it implicitly, say that a silent majority is not in agreement with those few who feel they are in position to block people." | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 13:18 | answer | added | Joonas Ilmavirta | timeline score: 23 | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 12:56 | history | migrated | from mathoverflow.net (revisions) | ||
Jul 4, 2015 at 12:56 | comment | added | user51223 | No, but very much related to the discussion that take place here! | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 12:55 | comment | added | Steven Landsburg | This is not a math question. | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 12:54 | comment | added | user51223 | I might be that a person who is posting such a question knows this, but for some reason has not classified it as elementary. | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 12:47 | answer | added | Harrison Smith | timeline score: 12 | |
Jul 4, 2015 at 12:43 | history | asked | user51223 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |