Timeline for Grothendieck's passing
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Apr 13, 2017 at 12:58 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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Nov 28, 2014 at 19:13 | comment | added | Włodzimierz Holsztyński | Very idiomatic. | |
Nov 28, 2014 at 13:30 | comment | added | user9072 | @WłodzimierzHolsztyński I think your last comment exaggerates quite a bit. (I do not find it polite either to insist on your point over and over again, especially in an increasingly sarcastic way.) While on this site your "we know" might be correct, I am quite doubtful that the average reader of the NYT knew much anything about Grothendieck; by contrast, I am quite convinced or at least hopeful that the inference mentioned by Mike Benfield will be made by most. Furthermore, while me too I initially found the phrasing odd, I am given to understand that it is an idiomatic way to express it. | |
Nov 27, 2014 at 19:36 | comment | added | Włodzimierz Holsztyński | @MikeBenfield -- the facts NYT mentioned were already clear to me without the NYT excerpt. We know without NYT that Gronthedieck was not half-bad mathematician, that he won Fields, and that Grothendieck's father was murdered by Germans and French. Thus, according to Mike Benfield's logic, the whole NYT obituary should be the name and 3 letters: Alexander Grothendieck, RIP. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 7:29 | comment | added | Włodzimierz Holsztyński | I stand by my statement about NYT. | |
Nov 26, 2014 at 1:17 | comment | added | Michael Benfield | @WłodzimierzHolsztyński: the facts you mention in your most recent comment were already clear to me from the NYT excerpt. My suspicion (apologies if incorrect) is that you are reading "moved to Auschwitz" with a different meaning than the one the author intended. I think the correct parsing is not "[he] eventually moved" but "[he] was... eventually moved." No one is going to miss the implications of someone being arrested, moved to Auschwitz, and dying in 1942. | |
Nov 25, 2014 at 2:21 | comment | added | Włodzimierz Holsztyński | The whole Grothendieck's life was affected by the tragic destiny of his father. His father was not simply arrested and sent to an internment camp. His father was rounded up by French, as a Jew, and soon he was delivered by French to Germans to perish. Grothendieck's father did't kind of leave the internment imprisonment to go quietly on retirement, to take it easy after a long life, and he didn't just quietly died in Auschwitz. Gronthendieck's father was MURDERED in Auschwitz by Germans. Germans MURDERED Grothendieck's father, with help from French, with French cooperation. | |
Nov 24, 2014 at 14:49 | comment | added | rghthndsd | @WłodzimierzHolsztyński: My apologies if I am being dense, but I fail to see how your excerpt is callous or repulsive. It seems to just be a recollection of facts. | |
Nov 21, 2014 at 22:23 | comment | added | Włodzimierz Holsztyński | * internment (not interment). | |
Nov 21, 2014 at 20:06 | comment | added | Włodzimierz Holsztyński | See above: The New York Times Obituaries Sunday, November 16, 2014. | |
Nov 21, 2014 at 20:05 | comment | added | Włodzimierz Holsztyński | Talking about healing the following callous statement from NYT's obituary article is repulsive (it's about Grothendieck's father): In 1939, he <Alexander> renunited with his mother and father in France, but his father was arrested, sent to an interment camp at Le Vernet and eventually moved to Auschwitz, where he died in 1942. NYT--SHAME on you! | |
Nov 15, 2014 at 17:44 | vote | accept | Joseph O'Rourke | ||
Nov 15, 2014 at 16:38 | answer | added | Todd TrimbleMod | timeline score: 16 | |
Nov 14, 2014 at 1:56 | comment | added | Joseph O'Rourke | It may be already too late, or superfluous, with 50 votes, 680 views, and many comments to the "sad news" posting... | |
Nov 14, 2014 at 1:14 | comment | added | David Roberts Mod | Not a bad idea. A protected question, of course. | |
Nov 14, 2014 at 1:13 | history | edited | David RobertsMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Nov 14, 2014 at 0:54 | history | asked | Joseph O'Rourke | CC BY-SA 3.0 |