# Three-vote close?

MO users might be interested in this StackExchange experiment: Testing three-vote close and reopen on 13 network sites. There has been considerable discussion around close-votes in MO Meta over the years. My own opinion is that a move from $$5$$ to $$3$$ votes would not be beneficial for MO.

It might be useful to become prepared to answer a possible future request from StackExchange on this issue.

• Somehow it seems to me that the move from 5 to 3 votes would be more beneficial for reopening than for closing. For closing it might help reduce the workload of filtering out homework questions, but there might be a lot of babies thrown out with that bathwater.
– Tim Campion Mod
May 3, 2021 at 20:42
• It would be great if we had quantitative data about this. How many questions have we had recently that stopped at 3 or 4 close (or reopen) votes? Is there a list, so that we can see for ourselves if they are baby or bathwater? May 4, 2021 at 10:28
• Certain controversial questions have produced close/reopen wars in the past. The new rule would speed these up by a factor of 5/3. That's probably not a good thing. May 4, 2021 at 16:09
• @ChristianRemling: Those close/reopen wars are rare, and generally get by resolved by moderator intervention in any case. I think this change should be judged on its effect in the more common cases, not the rare ones! May 4, 2021 at 17:01
• If close/reopen wars are a concern, we could suggest SE to implement an increasing threshold: 3 votes to close/reopen the first time, 5 the second time, 7 the third, ... May 4, 2021 at 17:37
• I guess a good strategy about close/reopen question cannot be seriously discussed without seriously studying the history of such questions.
– YCor
May 4, 2021 at 22:36
• Making it easier to close a question makes it harder for the user posting the question to improve it before it gets closed. May 4, 2021 at 23:35
• I think it is not even easy to predict whether reducing the number of votes required to close a question would actually lead to questions being closed faster. -- There may also be an opposite effect that makes one more reluctant to vote to close if one's vote has a higher weight. In any case, as long as there is no bigger problem with the current setup, I'd be very careful with such change which may have various hard-to-predict consequences.
– Stefan Kohl Mod
May 5, 2021 at 9:37
• At the present, as far as I know, there is no plan to implement this change for sites that not explicitely ask for it. All the sites in the experiment (and some others) have asked for it! May 9, 2021 at 20:51
• @FedericoPoloni, re, surely the proper number of votes the third time is 8, and then 13 the fourth time? May 11, 2021 at 16:50
• Just a passer by, but seeing the year in moderation stats here it looks like most of the closing is done by mods. If they have a desire to lighten that workload moving to 3 vote closures could be beneficial. May 14, 2021 at 20:48
• @Luuklag Could you clarify what you mean by "most of the closing is done by mods"? The post you linked says: Questions closed - 138 Moderators, 3258 Community. (For reopened questions, the numbers shown there are 10 and 20.) May 16, 2021 at 2:30
• Ouch @MartinSleziak I mixed up the columns in my head. May 16, 2021 at 6:59