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Not too long ago - in March 2019 - some changes have been made to the Hot Network Questions (HNQ). Some of the new features are the limit on the number of hot questions from a single site, or limit on how long a question can be in the HNQ list. For more details, see the announcement on Meta Stack Exchange: Updating the Hot Network Questions List - now with a bit more network and a little less “hotness”!

One of the new features was that moderators can remove the question from the HNQ list. I will quote a part of the linked announcement:

We're putting the power in the hands of our moderators to remove questions that don't set a good example for their sites. I recommend each site have a meta discussion with guidance for moderators about when - if ever - a question should be removed.

Once a moderator excludes a question, it can't be selected again, so don't think of this as a temporary "hide this question" option. In general, we recommend that you exclude questions that attract negative attention to your sites, that is, questions that are controversial, start large amounts of debate or arguments or even edit wars.

For example, you can see that many questions have been removed from the HNQ list by moderators on Mathematics Stack Exchange. As far as I can tell, this hasn't happened for any questions on MathOverflow yet.

If you are curious to see what the recent HNQs from MathOverflow look like, you can check the Hot Network Questions chatroom, which has a feed with the HNQs. (Or you can simply search for mathoverflow.net in that room. There is also the room called Listing bounties and HNQs. This room contains only questions from MO - however, both featured questions and HNQs are posted there.) Alternatively, you can use Data Explorer (SEDE), for example, this query. (Keep in mind that the data in SEDE are only updated once a week, so you won't see the questions which entered the HNQ since the last Sunday in this way.)1

Questions.

  1. Should in some cases MO questions be removed from the HNQ list? What types of questions should be treated this way?
  2. If a user spots a MathOverflow question in the HNQ list and they think that it does not belong there, what is the proper action they should take? Is flagging the question for moderators' attention and including a custom explanation a reasonable course of action?

Some additional remarks

  • To some extent, hot questions "represent" MathOverflow to users on other sites in the network, since those are the question that they see unless they visit it regularly. So depending on which questions are chosen for the HNQ, they might give users coming here after clicking on them a wrong impression about what MO is supposed to be. You can see that there are questions which are closed or were closed at some point and yet they were in the HNQ list - if a question got closed, then it's perhaps not the best representative for the site.
  • It seems that there is not that much traffic from the HNQ list compared to total visits of MO: Traffic from the list of hot network questions. In the past discussions about benefits and possible problems with hot questions, it seems that one issue that many users raised was the fact that they might cause some votes from users with insufficient knowledge of the problem at hand. For this reason, I'll mention once again this feature request: Prevent questions on Hot List from being upvoted by casual visitors (only rep is from association bonus).
  • In a way, regular users can also remove a post from HNQ simply by editing the title - since questions containing MathJax in the title are not allowed into the HNQ list. However, there might be some cases when a more natural title would be without any mathematical formulas. And this could possibly lead in some cases to editing wars. So in cases where removal of a question from HNQ is really needed, I would consider an intervention by a moderator as a cleaner solution (unless the title with MathJax is clearly better and more descriptive).

1I should explicitly mention that entering HNQ is recorded in the revision history/timeline/SEDE only since the end of February 2019, so you won't find information about older questions. The feed in the linked chatroom comes not from Stack Exchange but from the user who maintains it using their own resources. Recording the HNQs started in the first half of February, so you won't find much older posts there, either.

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    $\begingroup$ As a side note, I will mention that I have created the (hot-network-questions) tag here on meta. Perhaps it is useful to have this tag - as you can see there were some discussion related to the HNQs in the past. $\endgroup$ – Martin Sleziak Jun 24 at 11:54
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    $\begingroup$ Most of the HNQs shown by your query are actually quite reasonable and interesting questions. So I don't think this needs careful curation, just occasional attention. $\endgroup$ – Joseph O'Rourke Jun 24 at 12:16
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    $\begingroup$ I guess no formal guidelines, agreements, or anything else like that are really needed if the questions are handled on a case by case basis and (subjective, of course, but what opinion is objective?) common sense is exercised. Neither do we need to care too much what the outsiders may possibly think of MO if some controversial question/answer makes it to the list. Everybody knows that humans aren't perfect and, compared to some highly visible public figures (especially in the government), we will, probably, always look like angels with double halo and a spare set of wings. $\endgroup$ – fedja Jun 27 at 13:54
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    $\begingroup$ In case it's helpful, here is the equivalent thread on Physics Stack Exchange. $\endgroup$ – Emilio Pisanty Jun 27 at 23:47
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    $\begingroup$ @JosephO'Rourke As you can see from the link above, that's definitely not the case elsewhere on the network. Y'all are some lucky folks on this score. $\endgroup$ – Emilio Pisanty Jun 27 at 23:50
  • $\begingroup$ This is only a hypothetical case since the community has handled it responsively by closing it in 3 hours (and this is the utility of 8-hour delay for HNQ!), but I believe this "suicidal thought" question should be removed as fast as possible since it gathered many answers and upvotes, if it did enter the HNQ. $\endgroup$ – Andrew T. Jul 8 at 3:22

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