Timeline for Should Mathoverflow take a stand against AI?
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| Aug 4, 2023 at 15:12 | comment | added | Joseph Van Name | @JasonPolak To continue the discussion, we should go to the AI safety chat room that I created. chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/147565/ai-safety So you want people to know about the dangers of AI, but you want them to not understand AI? | |
| Aug 4, 2023 at 13:54 | comment | added | user1437 | @JosephVanName Thanks for your advice, I am working on AI safety by writing about it and informing people of its dangers. You may not agree with this line of action, but I believe (for a variety of reasons that wouldn't fit in this box), but I believe that course of action is the only morally correct one. Simply playing the prisoner's dilemma as you suggest I believe is not the right way to go and I will never in my life contribute one iota of understanding to AI and how they work, so that someone else can build a better AI. Suffice it to say, I disagree with everything you say on every level. | |
| Aug 3, 2023 at 12:17 | comment | added | Joseph Van Name | @JasonPolak An attempt to ban AI from another community will be counterproductive as well. Since you are concerned about AI, you should either stay offline and off the grid, or you can work on AI safety. Right now, many people have trouble figuring out what trained neural networks are actually doing, so we need to develop and investigate more AI interpretability tools. | |
| Jul 30, 2023 at 22:54 | answer | added | Joseph Van Name | timeline score: -3 | |
| Jul 30, 2023 at 16:07 | comment | added | user1437 | @JosephVanName ... I wasn't trying to impose a rule on anyone. I was wondering if there was a strong consensus in the community about this issue. This post told me there was not, and so I really don't care about trying to impose anything on the mathematical "community". I am happy to go elsewhere. | |
| Jul 30, 2023 at 12:35 | comment | added | Joseph Van Name | If someone wants to make sure that AI is safer, one should donate one's disposable income to AI safety research or conduct some AI safety research by one's self (most mathematicians should be able to figure out some AI safety research). This is better than imposing rules on others. | |
| Jul 29, 2023 at 15:32 | comment | added | Joseph Van Name | It is not practical for MO to get rid of AI since the search bar that we use to search for questions uses AI. It will not be practical for MO to dictate what kinds of AI are allowable and which kinds are not allowable since that will be very complicated and divisive. | |
| Jul 28, 2023 at 20:58 | comment | added | Yemon Choi | In view of the "ratchet effect" caused by the fact that one can upvote comments but not downvote them: my personal stance differs from Asaf's, but nevertheless my answer to Jason's question would be "no". | |
| Jul 27, 2023 at 21:56 | comment | added | Asaf Karagila Mod | AI is coming. Much like genetic engineering, clean energy, and quantum computing. Nothing short of a global catastrophe is going to stop that. Pretending that we can prevent AI coming into our lives is tantamount to burning textile machines in England. If you have a vested interest in this being safer, be a policy maker, an advocate, and a researcher on the frontier of it all. | |
| Jul 27, 2023 at 19:28 | comment | added | Joseph Van Name | If we ban AI here, how are we supposed to ask questions and give answers on MO that will make AI safer? | |
| Jul 27, 2023 at 17:11 | comment | added | Alex M. | Does this answer your question? At what point should MO recognise it needs to leave Stack Exchange Inc? | |
| Jul 27, 2023 at 15:06 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Jul 27, 2023 at 13:50 | comment | added | user1437 | @StevenLandsburg ... I guess the answer is ... no then. | |
| Jul 27, 2023 at 13:46 | comment | added | Steven Landsburg | I think that if MathOverflow takes a stand against anything, it should be people who are so sure of their own value judgments that they feel fine about co-opting large diverse organizations into endorsing them. | |
| Jul 27, 2023 at 13:32 | comment | added | Gerry Myerson | You start out "wondering, should Mathoverflow take a stand against Stackexchange for their use of AI?" but you seem to have convinced yourself ("I believe that Mathoverflow should take a stand against AI"). But more to the point, I don't know what you are referring to when you say Stackexchange is using AI. Maybe you could elaborate on that. | |
| Jul 27, 2023 at 13:25 | history | asked | user1437 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |