Timeline for Are we making it too tempting/easy to send inappropriate posts to MSE?
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| May 28, 2022 at 11:51 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | Just in case somebody stumbles upon this post, I will mention that the MO mods recently request some feedback from the MO community regarding the custom close reasons: Revamping the closure reasons in 2022. | |
| Jun 2, 2019 at 14:05 | comment | added | Steven Landsburg | @LSpice : Thank you. | |
| Jun 2, 2019 at 2:10 | comment | added | LSpice | For what it's worth, as a direct result of this question, I have switched from automatically flagging almost all sub-research-level questions for migration to MSE to thinking more carefully about whether they are of an appropriate level for this site. | |
| May 31, 2019 at 15:15 | history | edited | YCor | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 31, 2019 at 14:05 | history | edited | Steven Landsburg | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 24, 2019 at 5:56 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | Here is a question from 2013 discussing wording of the close reasons: Revamping the closure reasons. Other posts linked there seem to be related, too. | |
| May 21, 2019 at 16:08 | history | edited | Greg Martin | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Changed "his" to "their". Assuming that MO users are male contributes to bias against women in mathematics.
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| May 19, 2019 at 11:38 | comment | added | YCor | As regards the OP's question, the main absurdity is that the choice between "This question does not appear to be about research level mathematics within the scope defined in the help center" and "MathOverflow is for mathematicians to ask each other questions about their research. See Math.StackExchange to ask general questions in mathematics." is just senseless. None contradicts the other. Ticks "I'm voting to close because", but "See Math.StackExchange to ask general questions in mathematics" is not a cause for closing, but a message to the OP of the closed question. | |
| May 19, 2019 at 11:33 | comment | added | YCor | One problem about migration is that the process to migrate is somewhat unclear to unexperienced users. The meaning of "belongs on another StackEchange site" was very cryptic to me and I understood it only after a while (the meaning of "belong on" is not obvious to non native English speakers — I initially interpreted this as "belongs to another StackEchange site" which makes little sense). Confusion increased by the "See MathSE for general question in math" option. | |
| May 18, 2019 at 22:09 | comment | added | Will Sawin | @NeilStrickland If a question does comply with the guidelines for MSE, shouldn't one click the migrate option instead of that one? Or should migration only be for questions that exceed the expectations of the guidelines of MSE? | |
| May 18, 2019 at 22:08 | comment | added | Will Sawin | I wonder if the close reasons could be changed slightly to make this more clear (if others use them in a similar way to me). They shouldn't be rude, but the non-migrating ones could be a little more forceful about the need to improve the question than they are now. | |
| May 18, 2019 at 22:04 | comment | added | Will Sawin | Part of the reason for this is the current close messages are giving information by omission, which is probably not obvious to the asker. If I have the power to (vote to) move your question to another website, but instead tell you to ask future questions on that website, it probably means your current question is not good enough for that website. If I could tell you to go to another website, but instead tell you to leave this website, it probably means your current question is even worse than that. | |
| May 18, 2019 at 21:58 | comment | added | Will Sawin | The rule I try to follow is (1) If I think the question is a good question, just not appropriate for the site, vote to migrate. (2) If I think the question needs to be rewritten, but would be fine when rewritten, vote "see math.stackexchange.com...". (3) If I doubt the question can ever be rewritten to a good question, vote "this question is not about research-level mathematics...". It seems from considering the comments here that this is still a fairly reasonable policy. For the linked question, it's of type (3), so I would vote with the majority. | |
| May 16, 2019 at 13:56 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | @Bullet51 The suggestion to add more outgoing migration paths seems to be orthogonal to what is discussed here. Moreover, there already have been several posts on meta about this. So that I do not digress too much from the topic at hand, I have listed a few such posts in the MathOverflow chatroom, | |
| May 16, 2019 at 10:28 | comment | added | LeechLattice | What about adding more sites in the option "This question belongs on another site in the Stack Exchange network", e.g. scicomp, cstheory, academia? | |
| May 16, 2019 at 10:16 | comment | added | Stefan Kohl Mod | @DavidRoberts When a question is reopened, the answers would of course be undeleted then (or at least it would seem strange to me if they would not ...). As to visibility of answers to authors of the questions, I don't see a reason to deviate from how things are now for deleted answers. | |
| May 16, 2019 at 8:53 | comment | added | Neil Strickland | Is it possible for us to add explanatory text to the list seen by reviewers? Something like "Please do not click this button unless you think that that this question complies with the guidelines for MSE" (with link). | |
| May 15, 2019 at 13:51 | comment | added | Steven Landsburg | @MartinSleziak : My "click thoughtlessly" was meant to refer to the vote-to-closers who choose this reason, not to the users who follow up on it. I will edit to clarify. | |
| May 15, 2019 at 10:48 | comment | added | David Roberts Mod | @StefanKohl sometimes, just sometimes, a closed off-topic question is reopened, and at that point, should the deleted answers be undeleted? Should the authors of those questions be able to see them in the meantime? | |
| May 15, 2019 at 9:23 | comment | added | Stefan Kohl Mod | I don't see a need for a hardcoded way to suggest posting a question at Math.SE. Individual suggestions can be made in comments. -- And why not going a step further -- i.e. wouldn't just two close reasons "off-topic" and "no longer relevant" be sufficient -- where "off-topic" closure is only applicable to questions with no or only relatively new answers, and causes existing answers to be deleted immediately and the question to be deleted after some time if it is not reopened, and "no longer relevant" closure keeps everything intact and has no negative implications or connotation whatsoever? | |
| May 15, 2019 at 4:01 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | Also, as pointed out in the comment to the linked question, even if the user click "thoughtlessly" on the link, on MSE they will be shown How to Ask Page before asking the first question. (This was result of this discussion. A similar feature doesn't work on MO.) Of course, it's quite plausible that user who posted non-research level question here tend not to read instructions - after all they posted here without checking what this site is for. | |
| May 15, 2019 at 3:32 | history | edited | Martin Sleziak |
added (close-reasons) - and (math-stackexchage) - both tags seem suitable to me; feel free to edit further if you see better choice of suitable tags
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| May 15, 2019 at 3:16 | comment | added | fedja | @AsafKaragila Yeah, but with the amount of junk floating there every hour, I feel like the posts mindlessly transferred from MO contribute to the overall pollution there about as much as a cup of coffee spilled into the river next to the sewer pipe. | |
| May 15, 2019 at 3:00 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | This is to some extent related: When we close questions and suggest MSE, should we link to their How to Ask?. (BTW I think that the (math-stackexchange) tag might be suitable also here - similarly at in the linked question.) | |
| May 14, 2019 at 21:44 | comment | added | Asaf Karagila Mod | Let me reiterate, as a moderator on MSE, that MSE is not the garbage dump of MO. Not everything should go there, or could go there. And to cite the SE directive "Do not migrate crap". | |
| May 14, 2019 at 21:14 | history | asked | Steven Landsburg | CC BY-SA 4.0 |