Timeline for Can anyone learn anything from a downvote without an accompanying rationale in a comment?
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Dec 14, 2017 at 16:31 | comment | added | David Halitsky | @StevenLandsburg - thanks for the clarification - I assumed that was the case, so am glad you confirmed it. As I said earlier - downvotes don't BOTHER me, but I do want to understand them correctly, and you're helping me to do that . . . | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 16:11 | comment | added | Steven Landsburg | David: Because you are new here, you might not be aware that , by long-standing tradition, downvotes have a different meaning on meta than they do on the main site. On the main site, downvotes mean something like "This is not a good question". On meta, they mean something more like "This might (or might not) be a perfectly good question, but I disagree with the opinion it expressses." I mention this to help you put the many downvotes you've gotten here in context. | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 8:41 | comment | added | David Halitsky | @GerryMyerson - I feel very bad that you chose to interpret my comment as arising from brashness, and equally glad that others apparently have not. If you take a moment to visit my FB page, you'll see that I'm more than a bit of a Graecophile, and it is in an Ancient Greek context that I assure you of the fact that for me, this site is truly a gift from the gods for people in my particular position. That being said, I feel compelled to ask if you recall the famous story about Bolyai's son (I think it was Bolyai's son, if my memory serves me correctly.) | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 7:07 | comment | added | Gerry Myerson | "I have been on enough web boards in both the arts and sciences that I have learned not to be bothered by downvotes in and of themselves." I have been on enough internet groups not to be bothered by people who have been here for a week trying to tell people who have been here for years how to run their business. But I still am. Anyway, this has been discussed to death on many previous occasions. | |
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Dec 14, 2017 at 3:45 | answer | added | Martin Sleziak | timeline score: 10 | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 2:48 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | Probably it's worth mentioning that users below 2k reputation are shown a tooltip reminding them that it might be useful (but not obligatory) to accompany downvote with a comment. For more details, see this meta.SE post: Encouraging people to explain downvotes. | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 2:39 | comment | added | David Halitsky | @MartinSleziak - thanks so much for taking the time to recall and post that link. Regarding upvotes, I could actually see a small pop-up (such as those which hotels etc. use to get after-visit feeback) in which the upvoter was required to choose at least one of multiple categories indicating reason for upvote - as polar extremes in this pop-up, one might have originality and technical virtuousity (since these are all too often mutually exclusive) | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 2:38 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | I will add to your comment about control mechanism that downvotes can work this way. If a user has many downvoted/closed questions, they automatically get into question ban. | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 2:34 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | Somewhat related older discussion from this meta: Completely Unexplained Downvotes. As a side note - would the same apply to upvotes? (Would you expect people who upvote a question to leave a comment explaining why they upvoted?) | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 2:30 | history | edited | Martin Sleziak |
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Dec 14, 2017 at 1:55 | comment | added | David Halitsky | @StevenLandsburg - all good points which completely eluded me. Thanks! BUT- all three of your objectives, in my opinion, could actually be better accomplished if a rationale was required as to why a particular question was deemed "not typical of quality". In the absence of such rationales, I believe I was correct to say that all boards beoome more prone to degeneration in their social psychologies. | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 1:49 | comment | added | Steven Landsburg | Your list of (good) reasons omits these: 1) Sending a message to new visitors that this is not the typical quality of question you're going to find here, so you might want to stick around; 2) Keeping the question off the front page, so those new visitors don't see it in the first place; 3) Keeping the question off the front page, so existing users don't have to deal with the clutter. | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 0:54 | comment | added | David Halitsky | Bravo to the downvoter of THIS question !!!! I like and appreciate his or her sense of humor, very much ! | |
Dec 13, 2017 at 23:54 | comment | added | David Halitsky | @StevenLandsburg - unless you're thinking of downvotes as a control mechanism for preventing trollish contributors from gaining certain privs that would increase their capacity to harm the site, or for discouraging their further participation at the site, I don't see what purpose a downvote could serve OTHER than educative . .. . | |
Dec 13, 2017 at 23:50 | comment | added | Steven Landsburg | Whence the assumption that the only possible value of a downvote lies in its ability to educate? | |
Dec 13, 2017 at 23:40 | history | edited | David Halitsky | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Dec 13, 2017 at 23:17 | history | asked | David Halitsky | CC BY-SA 3.0 |