Timeline for Do your own homework
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| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:58 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://mathoverflow.net/ with https://mathoverflow.net/
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| Mar 17, 2017 at 10:13 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.mathoverflow.net/ with https://meta.mathoverflow.net/
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| Oct 29, 2013 at 19:45 | comment | added | user9072 | I still do not understand the need for all this. If we find such a consensus, and somebody deviates from it, then, yeah, anybody can (if they feel like it) remind anybody. And then if we have rules for tsk-ing and somebody does not follow these rules we need some tsk-ing for the bad tsk-ing... Sorry, to me this is too reminiscent of Jasper 'Talking out of turn...that's a paddling. Looking out the window...that's a paddling. Staring at my sandals...that's a paddling. Paddling the school canoe...ooh, you better believe that's a paddling ' | |
| Oct 29, 2013 at 19:28 | comment | added | Gerhard Paseman | Two features I like about this system are: the comment under the question is essentially Tsk, name, link, and nothing else, which reduces some visibility on main, and the alternative on meta , Tsk, name, link to offending comment, brief additional comment on how to fix. It could blow up, but it could also be used successfully and briefly, so there should be rules for using this convention to avoid the troubles that you point out. Gerhard "Or We Always Stay Nice" Paseman, 2013.10.29 | |
| Oct 29, 2013 at 19:19 | comment | added | Gerhard Paseman | Indeed, there is that risk, if this were applied generally. This is why I put this conditional on there being a consensus of what is SPECIFIC proper behaviour/misbehaviour. I could extend this to tsking you on your wordiness, and you tsking me on signatures and levity: I do not want to go there. If it is agreed however that "Do your homework" comments are discouraged by the community, this serves (hopefully) as a temporary gentle reminder, as it is linked to the meta question that discusses the issue and consensus. Gerhard "Better Suggestions Are Still Welcome" Paseman, 2013.10.29 | |
| Oct 29, 2013 at 19:10 | comment | added | user9072 | My issue is not with the public trace, but rather with the annoyance in the very moment, which actually could lead to a rather harmless incident getting blown-up. And, a specific issue is that personally I really really dislike the idea of this 'tsk' or anything like that. To me this has some elementary school touch to it that alread then I really disliked. | |
| Oct 29, 2013 at 18:36 | comment | added | Gerhard Paseman | The point is to abbreviate/reduce the chatter on the commentary in the questions. There may be a point to keep comments regarding normative behaviour with the offending comments, but that will also introduce noise. If you want to moderate community behaviour, is it better to do so and keep a public record of it, or not? The convention above assumes only temporary gentle reminders are needed; if so, the reminders can be removed and little trace remains, or can be kept with a smaller footprint. Gerhard "Feel Free To Suggest Alternatives" Paseman, 2013.10.29 | |
| Oct 29, 2013 at 18:35 | comment | added | user9072 | (cont.) And, the discussion of the deviation from some norms (in non-extreme ways) is IMO better done somewhat abstract or at least with some distance from the actual event, else one runs the risk to have the comment thread under that poor new users question 'explode' leaving them with a still much worse experience, IMO. Alos, if you notice some regular contstantly doing something you disapprove of you might raise the issue with the moderators. Depending on ones personality it can be (a lot) easier to change ones behavior after a private note than after public discussion over it. | |
| Oct 29, 2013 at 18:29 | comment | added | user9072 | I downvote this as I do not consider it a good suggestion. While I think it is a good idea to have dicussion of community standards and deviations of them, the proposal of some quasi institutionalized tsk-ing here strikes me as something that will create quite a bit of noise and annoyance for very little benefit in return. Especially what is the point of the 'tsk'? If somebody feels like calling somebody out on something they can do so. It might or might not be helpful for the situation at hand. They can also (typically better, IMO) say something nicer to OP instead. (cont.) | |
| Oct 29, 2013 at 16:40 | comment | added | Gerhard Paseman | I intended to have just the link address display, not "Tsk @Gerry Do your own homework". Does someone know how to escape so that the http address itself appears instead of the title reference? Gerhard "Prefers More Direct Redirection Forms" Paseman, 2013.10.29 | |
| Oct 29, 2013 at 16:37 | history | answered | Gerhard Paseman | CC BY-SA 3.0 |